I have slapped together a pedestrian video introduction to how the winder works now and posted it on YouTube:
Also: there have been some excellent comments, experiences and challenges raised in the KAP discussion I started to get some feedback on my first article http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/discuss/comments.php?DiscussionID=3775
Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Sunday, February 12, 2012
Please note: The graphics in the early part of the document are the best I can do for now. I hope they get the point across!
A Kite Line Capstan With Winder Adaptors.
MotivationIn the summer of 2009 I decided I wanted to get into Kite Aerial Photography, and quickly became dissatisfied with the tedium of winding in kite string; especially with a lot of wind.
So, I went looking on the internet for kite winders and was unimpressed by what I found since I did not want to limit myself to just one line weight per bulky and heavy-weight winder. I really like flying from a halo spool; thank you very much.
But! One cannot wind lots of line under significant tension onto a lightweight halo. The halo tends to collapse or explode due to the accumulated stress. The heavy-weight winders are heavy because they are built to take that stress.
One comment on the page about a halo winder exploding got me thinking:
I would think that the right approach would be to have the cord wind around a shaft a few times before going onto the spool; the shaft would thus supply most of the tension for pulling in the kite; the spool could be left a little bit to avoid an overly-loose wind, but would not have the huge force pushing on it.
supercat, May 26 2004
Sailing Winches, Capstans, and Take-up ReelsNow, my other summertime hobby is sailing, and there we deal with lines (ropes) under horrific tension and make them tighter with sailing winches, or capstans as they are properly called. The lines to be tensioned is wrapped clockwise around the barrel of the winch 2 or 3 times and pulled taught so the loops are tight against the barrel. Manually operated capstans have pawls inside (somewhat like a bicycle freewheel) that allow it to rotate clockwise only and snug winds of the lines have a lot of grip against the textured barrel; so the line will not slip back out again as long as a light tension is maintained on the tail ( that is the bit of line that is already 'past' the winch)
Usually it it possible to plug crank handles into the top of the capstan and use them to crank the barrel around to pull in more rope. The handles swing out 2 or 3 times the radius of the barrel so there is some mechanical advantage working for the cranker even with direct drive. For situations needing even more pull there are winches that use a lower gear ratio if you crank the handle counter-clockwise, and even fancier units that will gear down again if you crank clockwise again. Some sailing winches have an additional rope gripper that handles the tail automatically to avoid dedicating one person to tailing while another hefty soul grinds1 away on the winch handle.
Of course the hefty soul could be replaced with a motor. But motors are heavy and illegal in wind-power-only competition. And sailing is all about competition.
What happens to all that line when it has been cranked in? Generally it gets dumped on the deck because the lengths are manageable: meters only, not tens of meters. Its usually too long (and too thick) to wind onto the capstan of the winch, but O.K. to sit on or coil up a bit after the fact. Quick access may be more important than utter neatness all the time.
But if there is a lot of line, it should get wound up on a reel under just enough tension to keep it neat. That means the drum can be of lightweight construction (even cardboard!) because the windup effect is not going to happen once the winch/capstan has dealt with the tension..Managing the tension difference is a detailed subject I don't want to completely understand; I just want to preserve my halo kite string reels so I can take aerial photographs of racing!
My kite string winder wish list
- Make it possible to use a halo as a take up reel
- quick changes of take up reels so:
- I can fly a a kite on the halo alone, and retrieve it on the
- several kite lines on compatible reels can fly and pulled
down with the winder
- I can chain several reels worth of line together.
- I can fly a a kite on the halo alone, and retrieve it on the winder.
- handy enough to be used on a boat, especially a sailboat.
- provide some mechanical advantage for high pull situations
- have a speed handle for low pull situations
- lightweight, but robust enough to go in a backpack, be used
on a boat, and by a child.
- home build-able from cheap material
The Basic IdeasI started with the basic capstan to reel idea ( the reel is on a slipper clutch to control the winding tension):
and put the winch and reel slipper clutch on the same axle to ease construction and save space. This required a pair of fair leads to direct the line from the capstan to the reel
This is a schematic of the top view:
One Real World KAPstan2 Winch
- The spine of the winch is made from 3/4 inch dowel with a simple hole drilled crosswise for the 1/4 inch bolt axle.
- The top and bottom cross pieces are also dowel, glued and
screwed onto the spine where it was cut with a 3/4 inch drill for a
flush fit. The top cross piece forms a handle for the left hand, and
the bottom rests against the gut or hips to support the whole for
the right hand to operate the crank.
- The white capstan is made from the plastic hub of a lawnmower
wheel, the ribbed texture is a neat bonus I only discovered after
cutting off the tire!
- The green 50 pound test fishing line is being wound on the
reel it was sold on with the spider cut out to make it small halo.
- The 3 fair leads are eye-bolts with their eyes twisted a bit
out of true so the line can be slipped in from the side at treading
- The pink stuff just visible to the right of the reel is
'rubber' packing foam cut into a disk to support the reel from the
inside with a hole in the center for the axle to go through.
- The wing nut just visible to the left is on the end of the
1/4” x 4” bolt that forms the axle. The axle passes though the
slipper clutch/reel holder, spine, and capstan to a double ended
crank on the far right.
- The line is threaded in from the bottom of the reel to the
kite as follows:
- it feeds up from the bottom of the reel
- to the reel-side fair lead
- to the capstan takeoff fair lead,
- around the capstan 4 times in the same direction as the
- then through the capstan fair lead
- to the kite.
- it feeds up from the bottom of the reel
Here is a capstan-side view with an Premier Kites 8 inch winder mounted. Only the foam insert was changed to fit the larger reel. Note the path the line is threaded through the fair leads and around the capstan and reel.
3 1.25” by 1/16 bar stock, the knobs are plastic drawer pulls. The frame is made from 3/4” dowel. I cut the spinal dowel with a 3/4” drill to make clean T-joints at the head and tail ends.
The head of the axle bolt is visible here, clamped to the crank by crimping it around the bar with a bench vise after starting the bend with a hammer.
The black backing disk on the other side of the spine is made of 1/8” expanded PVC board sometimes sold under the name 'Sintra' in Canada and the United States. This stuff is nice to work with: I cut that circle out with aircraft snips after drilling a center hole and scribing a big circle as a guide.
Here is the whole winder from the other side with the 8 inch halo mounted and tow other reels with their inserts to show the range of what sizes work. The holes were punched though the foam with thin walled 1/4” brass tubing because drills just don't work on this foam. I cut the outlines with scissors and I did not try to be precise at all. There is a lot of room for eccentricity and run out here since the rotation speeds are so low.
The black retaining disk for the foam is also made from Sintra. This was cut with the biggest hole saw I had and it fits nicely inside the smallest reel while working well with this big one.
Slipper Clutch and Reel HolderHere is the winder, upside down, with the reel support and slipper clutch removed from the crank axle.
The hex nut is finger tightened enough to squeeze the backer plate against the hairpin clip just visible in this photograph. The tighter this pressure, the tighter the line will wind on the reel since this is the slipper clutch that controls that tension.
The wing nut is necessary to hold the hex nut at the position selected since normal operation will either tighten the nut (right handers) or loosen the nut (left handers) as the clutch slips. Just tighten the wing nut enough to jam the two nuts together. Remember you will have to un-jam them with your fingers at some point!
Crank Axle Through Spine and Retaining hardware
The spine is cross drilled with a hole (barely visible here) big enough to allow the crank axle to turn freely without slop. Start small and work up in the smallest increments you can until things run freely. If needed lubricate with candle wax later, but will swell the wood and make things tighter.
Attaching the Capstan to the Axle
The hose was picked to be a tight fit for the wheel bore, inserted and cut to length, then drilled out for a tight fit on the 1/4 inch crank axle.
With the axle pressed in (and the crank installed, see below) I drilled through the face of the capstan, through the hub, hose, and axle to install a cross pin that fixes the wheel rigidly onto the axle. I use coat hanger wire for the pin; I will use a rolled spring pin for a cleaner look next time.
Obvious Possible ImprovementsThese have been left as an exercise for the reader.
- The hex nut jammed with the wing nut lacks class but that is
the best I have for now.
- The wire pin through the capstan and axle should be a rolled
- The length of the spine should be adjustable to the body of
- The sloppy nature of my crank handle leaves space for the
line to get wound between it and the capstan when threading or
winding out (see below). This is just a teething pain until someone
comes up with a better construction technique.
- Clean up all the places the line gets caught while threading.
- Add a holding strap for the crank.
AdvantagesI managed to accomplish most of my wish list and have hopes for the rest. It is light and easy to transport, the parts are cheap to buy, alter, and assemble. It is fairly handy to use, and gets out of the way easily when it is not wanted.
The mechanical advantage of the long throw handle is amazing to use, especially when the line is being reeled in so nicely. The small size of the capstan wheel helps a lot.
The high speed, short throw handle works well too and its amazing how fast the line comes in when all one has to do is crank; instead of swinging the arms all over to dump line on the ground for later low-tension pickup or for the slow one wind at a time spooling directly onto a halo.
A small capstan can wind onto many (larger) sizes of reels. The example 8 inch halo seems to be about the workable limit. Larger capstans would match better with larger reels for ease of operation, and a longer crank handles would preserve the mechanical advantage.
The cranking speeds are low enough that sloppy construction will still work. The critical fits are all along the axle, but most are self aligning or decreed by the drill bit for the axle hole. I don't think I measured any linear dimension on the prototype; it was all done 'by eye' and 'to fit'.
This thing should scale up to handle strong pulling kites easily. I suspect a heavier spine, a back strap, bearings on a thicker axle, and a heavier crank will be most of the changes. The wheel hub should be able to handle a lot of pull as it is.
Disadvantages (with some suggested fixes)When the reel is bigger than the capstan, then unwinding line while threaded is a tricky business. The problem is that the reel lets out more line per revolution than the capstan will wind out; and the extra line usually bunches up between the reel and the last fair lead before jamming between the backing plate and the spinal column. Retarding the reel with a thumb is usually enough to prevent this from happening, but it is a pain. I hope to add a one way retarder between the spine and the back plate to do this automatically. For large line releases it is usually nicer to un-thread the line and use the reel free-hand anyway.
This winch does nothing for twisted line. It leaves the twist as it finds it as long as there is some tension. If there is a lot of twist and the line goes slack, then the line will twist on itself and probably tangle somewhere inconvenient4. The free-hand reel technique used to let out line will affect how much twist added or removed from the line so pay attention and alternate sides when letting the line rip off the reel.
Threading and un-threading the line under tension is tedious but not horrible. I worry more about teaching others how to do it than the personal time and attention needed this ritual.
The capstan has to be smaller than the winding diameter of the reel for the slipper clutch arrangement to work. If the capstan is bigger than the winding diameter, a gearing up mechanism is needed and that seems too complicated to be worthwhile.
Further WorkAddressing the obvious improvements is a priority, but I see other riffs on the basic concept.
Cordless Drill PowerI have made an electrically powered version. In fact that was first! I learned just enough to tease you with.
It turns out that a cordless drill, the rubber core from a sanding drum, some O-rings, the top of a soup can, plus some coat hanger wire can develop enough pull to snap 50 pound test fishing line while leaving the winds on the reel loose enough to fall over. Fine trigger control is necessary with that monster.
I hope to refine this beast for wider consumption later. It seems to be the perfect use for a cordless drill whose batteries have died. Replacing those expensive batteries with a heavy sealed lead acid battery means that the unit can be left on the ground with a few traction spikes to haul down kites with no cranking!
However, that is a story for another day. The existing kite fishing winches are safe for now.
Bicycle PoweredI usually am on my bike when I am kite flying so using my legs via gearing would be nice. Even better would be to use my 3 year old's boundless energy.
Wrap-up and ChallengeKite fliers tend to be inventors and hackers. My goal with this missive was to throw a challenge out so others will improve on the basic concept and construction insights that struck me this summer.
If someone wants to construct and sell winders based on this, go ahead! I hope you have competition! I want a sample, and some form of credit, but I don't want to block real innovation in a pastime I enjoy.
Contact InfoAlbert den Haan
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
A Kite Line Capstan With Winder Adaptors. by Albert den Haan is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License.
1With the handles installed these winches do look like manual coffee grinders. The slang term for the tedious winching task becomes too obvious.
2Yes, I had to use the Kite Aerial Photography acronym.
3'Aluminium' to those outside North America
4This is not unique to the KAPstan, it just has more inconvenient places for the tangles to go than some other reels.